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50 This a a poor photo of Lenny's scratch built round house made from wood and paper brick he printed on AutoCad. This is the smaller of two he will make for Cheyenne. It is the "Passenger House." The larger "Freight House" will sit on the paper, but it will be cut away in the middle to allow access to the turntable and the cut out section will be used for a scenic diorama like view of the insides with tools and equipment in place. The 5 Walthers kit Back shop is on the right, and the first track just past the Passenger House to the right is the "Omaha" track east out of Cheyenne towards Nebraska, about 37 miles away. So far we have roundhouses and turntables for Cheyenne, Laramie, Ogden, and Evanston, plus the second 90' one in east Cheyenne yard. We will also have one in Green River, Wyoming.
Capture Date: Sep 25, 2013 04:12 PM•Views: 831
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This is an amazing layout. I am also attempting to model the UP Cheyenne yard in HO scale and was wondering if you could direct me to where you found your site plan with the buildings or if I could purchase a copy of what appears to be a full size HO scale plan hanging on the rear wall below the photo of the yard. Thanking you in advance. Please contact me at [email protected] |
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This is the first Photo I took of the progress as of 10/29/13 following the First Formal Op Session of 10/25/13. For this session we straightened up the layout for visitors and taped and seamed and painted the hardboard fascia, put up maps--Downtown Ogden is shown here and its maps on the fascia--put up compass stars in strategic locations (like when an engineer would be leaving a town), and the stars showed the next few locations ahead in the proper E or W direction and those behind him. We also put up some other signs that I'll show later.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:27 AM•Views: 773
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This is Ogden. The main east bound classification yard that UP uses in the Ogden area is a very few miles just east of Ogden and is the Riverdale yard, but on the Wyoming Division layout that classification yard is just inside staging, so properly we should call it Riverdale (in staging). This yard viewed here makes more sense as Ogden, because the Ogden Depot and Freight house will be here when we get them built, and this is where the passenger trains stop as if the Depot were here. So on this layout Ogden is east of Riverdale unlike in the real Utah. Sometimes it is impossible to get things positioned correctly even on this huge layout. For example, Devil's Slide, a natural geological wonder will be on the wrong side of the tracks so it can run up the steep mountain at the back of the next bench from here, and the Ideal Cement Plant junction should be directly across the tracks from it, but we needed the plant on an end cap for the room to model it, so its junction is about 15 feet too far west.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:27 AM•Views: 812
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Consequently, following from the last photo, our Ogden on this bench is reduced to the 4 passenger tracks branching on the right diverging turnout on the left center of this photo, then to the left of the turnout, the two through tracks from which the turnout leaves, and 4 Ready tracks or Departure East tracks, and finally at the edge of the bench the Locomotive Track to the Coal Tower, Turntable, and Roundhouse at the far end of the bench. Around the corner is the staging bench.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:28 AM•Views: 792
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This is Ogden from the other direction (west end) and at the back beyond the Passenger Tracks with passenger trains on them is the space for the Depot and Annex to right and the large Freight House at the left. It will extend out of the picture to the left.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:28 AM•Views: 769
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Here can be see the cardboard footprints for the Depot and Freight House and smaller associated buildings. Also in front of the left end of the cardboard cutouts are the 3 freight house stub tracks, the third one nearest the bench being the automobile unloading stub. The round house and part of the unpainted brass model of the coal tower is on the corner of this bench, and staging is just around the corner. You will recall that the layout models Cheyenne in the east to Ogden in the west, so this is the east entrance to staging. The west entrance is from the staging helix down from Cheyenne on the top level above this bench and above staging.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:28 AM•Views: 805
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This is the fascia pockets Lenny made from polycarbonate sheet and standoffs for the Single Trick Car Cards which are 1/4 of a sheet of 8 1/2 x 11 card stock. No envelops are used. They are much larger than the tiny 2 1/8 x 4" 4 cycle type, so these fit on a clipboard and are easier to handle. The car ID is the top line, and the rest of the lines are blank origins, destinations, "Full," or "LCL," and the last space is for the date of the move. One of the "Full," or "LCL" columns is checked to characterize the load, and if it is an LCL (Less than Carload Lot) car, then multiple lines can be used to move the car along from stop to stop in one "move" in which case is a series of moves rather than a single "Full" move. Each line that is used is dated when that line is completed, and that makes a permanent record to plan further moves for the setup of the next session.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:29 AM•Views: 808
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I guess I took duplicate photos. Anyway, this Single Trick Car Card system may seem to take more fascia room than the tiny 4 cycle car cards, but making the fascia pocket this way allows them to be stacked as many as 4 deep, and we only need 2 (off spot and on spot) because a paper clip on the card notes a car as empty. Note that several sessions can be added to each card, one after the last (17 in all) or multiple moves can be made in the same session even for "Full" car loads by simply using the next line with and new "To" ("From" is where it is now), "FUL" or "LCL" checked and the "Date" left blank. The next engineer that comes along in this session or the next moves the car along. MT's can be captured this way also and sent back to the yard in the middle of a session if needed there, and this flowing feature of move to move is more prototypical than 4 cycles ahead, and is self healing. If a car pick up, or even a set out is missed, it is soon seen by the next train which takes it to the right place.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:29 AM•Views: 783
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This is the Ogden Turntable, part of the brass unpainted yet coal tower and roundhouse, and this view looks into staging. The turntable access tracks all are connected to the single Locomotive Track at the edge of the bench so the hostler can move locos from the roundhouse to the head of a departing train (refer to the previous photo #53), or remove them from the train on the Arrival track. It is the Hostler's job to move locos onto and off trains leaving and arriving in each yard. Another yard man moves the train with his switch engine and starts the classification process or whatever is next needed for each train. Road engineers are really road engineers. The large 1/2 sheet card from card stock is a Block Card describing blocks of cars. More about them later.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:30 AM•Views: 776
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This wide angle view shows staging to the left and Ogden to the right with the Engine facility between them. The clipboard has a Locomotive Card on it showing the parameters of each loco, tonnage rating in cars on the flat or up hills, speed in both areas, and for coal (or fuel), water, sand and ashes requirements. Loco Cards are used by Hostlers to pick locos for a particular train. Like the prototype, the Dispatcher does NOT do this. They are also used by the Road Engineer along with the Train Order sheet to plan his run for service (coal, etc.) stops. So a clip board for a Road Engineer has Cars for Loco, Blocks, and head end Cars and a Train Order Sheet. It may seem overcomplicated, but it actually makes the engineer job much more simple, because everything is called out for him. And it is very prototypical. Moves are planned one after the other, NOT 4 moves ahead, Locos are picked by Hostlers, NOT Dispatchers or owners, TOs give rules at all stops and what is required or available at each stop.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:30 AM•Views: 777
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I turned on the lights. We also have 9 x 12" white boards on Velcro for yard men to plan their work. They may make a list of what tracks are used for what blocks--#1 for LA, #2 for Oakland, #3 for Portland, etc. or anything else to help them keep organized. The little panel to the right of the white board is the Turntable control panel and the large panels to the left are for the Ogden turnouts (first one), and for sections of staging (the other two). A clip board is also seen hanging from Velcro. All clipboards have clamps that have to be lifted with your thumb; you can't accidently dump the contents on the floor by picking it up by the clamp. A Bad Order Card is leaning against two cars that need to be tuned up. On the bottom of the upper deck are green Tortoise brand turnout actuators or machines mounted on the bottom of the upper deck and one darker green electronic circuit breaker that protects a section of the tracks. (It may be an Autoreverser to electronically reverse the DCC power polarity.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:31 AM•Views: 776
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Back to work here with the clutter showing back up. The brass model is the rest of the coal dock that belongs on the Ogden lower bench directly seen below. This is the "back" side of Cheyenne, meaning it is from the side of the bench used to work Ogden on the lower level. Cheyenne, on the upper level, is worked from the other side by operators standing on a 17 inch tall riser. The lower level is worked from the building floor, still un-carpeted (I have the carpet in rolls out on the floor, but we have a lot of construction to do still. Shown from right to left are the Steel Car Shop, transfer table, the Wheel and Tank Shop, and the Wood Working Shop and the 90 foot turntable. The low lying Lumber Shed is partly hidden by the misplaced half of the Ogden coal tower. We are doing the entire Cheyenne yard except for some minor buildings, mostly small sheds. Lenny and Allen (with hat) are conferring across the bench. This is also a good view of the Mezzanine, which visitors and Ops observers will use.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:32 AM•Views: 762
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Cheyenne east end with straight freight Classification Tracks on the right connecting to Arrival/Departure (A/D) Tracks curving in from the right. These turnouts connecting the Classification Tracks with the A/D tracks select the route for disconnecting arriving road locomotives to pull forward off the road trains and back up to the coal tower, where they stop and pull forward under it. Really. That's how the UP did it. don't tell anyone, but the far right track is the Denver track running "south" from the Speer wye along the edge of the yard to the staging helix at the end of this bench and thence down into staging (Denver). It is a non-hidden hidden track. I could not figure a way to get it under the bench and limit the grade to 2%. The drop would have been about 9", counting the bench thickness (1/2") and the 1x6 cross braces supporting the bench and that 9" would have to occur in 32 feet, or a grade of 2.35% and then the track would be exposed on the fascia for the first 12 or 15 feet. Messy.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:35 AM•Views: 748
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This is looking the other way, east, along the 4 passenger tracks in front of the Depot which will be a flat (or maybe a photo of the real thing on the wall to the right. Scenery is not too important to me. Ops are. Don't want to have to reach over it.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:35 AM•Views: 761
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this is a super wide angle view of the last two photos. The bench edges are perpendicular to each other. The 95 degree field of view from the corner of the room only about 45 inches away distorts things. The Mezzanine shows well here. the 2 near right hand stub tracks are for the ice doc in Cheyenne and for the passenger service commissary and clean out track. One of the two heat pumps can be seen, and the other is in line further away. They use the geothermal heat exchangers of 10 wells in the ground outside approx 180-200 feet deep for a constant temperature tor the evaporator heat exchange medium. Below about 12 feet the ground temperature is a constant 72 degrees--better than trying to condense freon by blowing 108 degree air across coils.
Capture Date: Oct 29, 2013 08:45 AM•Views: 750
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